Showing posts with label Debunkers. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Debunkers. Show all posts

Saturday, April 2, 2016

Rant on Paranormal Phenomenon, Debunkers, Atheism, and Other Stuff


The administrator of the SpookyWeather blog writes:

I think the Ganzfeld experiments and other experiments prove there is something more to our physical selves and nature. Plus various observed paranormal cases of poltergeists and other phenomena show it too.

The Debunkers tend to dismiss everything, discounting the importance of anecdotal evidence and rejecting scientific experiments because it does not fit their preconceived views – they seem myopic and self centred cynical (ie their psychology taints their ‘objectivity’).

Many of the Debunkers seem to be Government plants too. And there are ‘suckers’ to believe these professional Debunkers ...

IMO the National Security State would not want people looking into anything outside the box if they wanted to keep their work on ETs and other stuff secret.  Programs must exist, and yet where are they?  Well, it seems reasonable to think that with the leading Debunkers, we are looking them in the face.

I think a lot of people who are overly leftish, and are on the Social Justice wagon, do take sides when it comes to examining issues. I’ve seen it with people I know when it comes to Trump – ‘he’s  monster!’. Which is why I try to calm them by saying things like ‘not excusing all that other monster stuff’, so that i can point out fundamental nation changing policies. Certainly all the other candidates are either REAL warmongers or probably like Obama (Mr covert war CIA Prez).

Atheists seem to be from the left more often than not, like the debunkers, and they click together. Everything they say about social justice resonates between each group, and thus they effectively sell disinformation through that prism. Real debunking of certain issues provides a level of credence to the debunkers in the eyes of fellow atheists who think what they are treated to is honest scientifically minded thinking.

I’m not overly rightwing tho. I expect people to work, but don’t mind being taxed to help the poor and have hospitals, schools and roads etc. I just don’t want big secretive corrupt governments out of our direct control that wastes money on themselves.

Ps. Sometimes wisdom is hard won, and only found on the paths less travelled. Those putting themselves in intellectual bubble environments will have trouble !

Ranting ...

Having a level-headed world view is not something to take for granted !  

Wednesday, April 1, 2015

Paranormal Review Radio - Believers & Skeptics Roundtable Discussion


Zar Doz:  
Guy Harrison, consciously aware or not, is exhibiting the same hypocritical self-validating logic debunkers, not skeptics, project. The basic axiom of skepticism is; open mind, suspend judgement, & investigate. Debunkers, admittedly or not, claim the "truth" position by default & any paranormal event must conform to their debunker worldview rules or "it's not real", which he implies @09:30 to 10:20. He touts the "I don't know" ideal, but he's quick to tell you what you did or didn't experience.
There is no such thing as an "extraordinary claim", therefore there is no "extraordinary evidence." This is nonsense. There is a claim and the evidence that validates it. Also, UFOs or unidentified flying objects do not require a "belief", since this is a description, so the need for "belief' is ridiculous. Debunkers or pathological skeptics have been taught to use this language, which allows them to control the words, thus the conversation. This is a type of neural linguistic programming (NLP).
Starting @0:45:45 what's being heard in Harrison's voice and the nervous laughter is the figurative intellectual rug being pulled out from underneath his pathological skepticism by Rob Henry's previous statement. Because Rob Henry is a skeptic. The roles are clear and defined @0:46:30 by Harrison with his own words again. The behavior he states is denial a.k.a. Cognitive Dissonance. Where's the open mind, suspension of judgement, and investigation? No where He already knows what it isn't? How?
 @0:47:15 Harrison suggest a "mass sighting of ghost" might do the trick to convince him. Well, literally multiple millions for decades and likely centuries have observed and reported UFOs individually and in mass, but this is ignored. People, like Harrison, who claim to be "skeptics", champion science, and "truth", do no such thing. They live in a constructed and defined reality, an imaginary mental prison of their own making where they view the world through a small group validated pinhole. 
Harrison validates my assessment with his own words. For example, take note of his condescending language and inflection, he's talking down to the panel, it's obvious. His example of a "noise from the hall way" is not only dismissive to the panel, but of the Scientific Method that paranormal investigators painstakingly collect with devices that measure the environment that can also be used to repeat and validate. But, of course, debunkers never bother with field work, they already "know".
Related:

Alex Tsakiris on Why Science is Wrong... about almost Everything

Alex Tsakiris, host of the Skeptiko Podcast, joins us to talk about his new book, Why Science is Wrong... about almost Everything. We discuss;

Skeptics and Athiests
The problems with Science and Dogma
Near Death Experiences
Healing
Psychic Detectives
Debunkers
Psychics and Mediums
Reincarnation
and much more.

Pick up Alex's book on Amazon.

Check out The Skeptiko podcast at www.skeptiko.com.